Holyoke Cabin
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By Paul Stankey in PreFab Published: Wednesday, 14 November 07 - 09:22 AM (GMT -06:00) Last Updated: Wednesday, 14 November 07 - 09:58 AM (GMT -06:00) |
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My father and his brother bought the property for hunting in 1970. The purchase consisted of two 20-acre lots split between the two of them. More recently we began leasing an adjacent 139 acres. The land is about two hours North of the Twin Cities in a very small community called Holyoke. The land has several ravines and hills with equal amounts of fields and prairie. Hunting was my father’s and uncle’s original intention for the land. As my cousins, brother and I grew up the land started to take on different uses for all of us. At a young age we all started riding motocross bikes, creating trails, jumps and tracks. Once we got a little older the land was too small for the bikes we were riding and the kind of riding we were interested in, we used the land as a home base for all the single track in the area. More recently we have been slowly restoring and rehabbing the land to bring it back to a natural state, we still have bikes though but with the construction of the cabin and everything else we have little time to get out and enjoy. I will save the topic riding for another post.
Since my father’s passing in the early 90’s my brother Scott Stankey, his wife Krista, my wife Sarah Nordby (girlfriend at the time) and I decided to build a new cabin/weekend home as the 1940’s trailer home is literally falling apart and being taken over by nature. The trailer was very cool, all birch interior with nice built-ins, but time took its toll. We started researching different building methods and materials with the focus on reuse and longevity as the budget was nonexistent and we wanted it to last. We also were looking at solutions that would be able to handle the wild seasonal changes and the intolerable rodent problem. Sarah and I lived near a train yard with stacks and stacks of shipping containers. As we would talk we could not help think of the possibility of shipping containers for a structure. I started looking into the purchase of a container and realized how affordable it could be. So once the initial research was completed I approached my brother with the idea. He was intrigued and we pursued it further. I started doing some drawings and some space analysis of what will actually work in an 8’ space. and running them past everyone and Scott called around and found two 20’ used containers for $800 each. Before the design could be completely hammered out we needed to solidify what we really needed in the cabin. We came up with a rough program consisting of really just rooms, we were not really concerned about size too much as we were coming out of an old trailer. The program we came up with for the cabin was to include a kitchen, dining room, living room, wash and clothes area, and two queen beds.
Once we all decided this is the way we wanted to go and had a pretty good idea of what this was going to look like we had to come up with a way to get them from Minneapolis to Holyoke. At the time I had a beat up Ford diesel truck that I thought could do it. I rented a flatbed trailer and met my brother at the train yard. We loaded up the first box and made our way up. My bother followed me in his truck running defense in traffic. We made it up in one piece and with little trouble. Once on the property we needed to unload the 5000-pound box. We first tried to pull the container off the trailer by me pulling forward and with my brother’s truck pulling the container other direction; this resulted in my truck pulling my brothers. We then devised a system using heavy gauge pipe and a rope. We jacked up the boxes high enough to get the pipes between the bed of the trailer and the bottom of the container. Once we had about 15 pipes under the full length we tied the container to my brothers truck again but left his truck in park with the handbrake engaged. I started my truck and proceeded to drive forward thus pulling the trailer out from under the container. This resulted in a loud noise but a successful drop. The second container was a snap as most of the details were worked out after dealing with the first one.
Once we decided on the exact location we rented an excavator and dug the footings. The following weekend Sarah, Scott and I formed, mixed and poured the footings and piers.
Two weeks after we began the process of moving the containers on to the piers. We aligned the containers with the pier locations and jacked them up on used railroad ties.
Once the containers we cribbed up to the appropriate height and aligned with the piers we used the same techniques we used to get the containers off the trailer.
We attached one end of a come-along to a tree and the other to one of the containers. Under the containers we used the pipes as wheels again and slowly moved them into place.
We moved a container a weekend. Once they were in place we removed the cribbing and welded them into place. From there the rest is pretty self-explanatory(photo loft).
A couple things to note about the whole process and the current state; we have no electricity, we used a generator or hand power, and we have no running water so mixing concrete was achieved by pumping water from our creek 1/4 mile away and trucking it to the build site and mixing in an electric mixer powered by a generator. All windows and hardware were homemade; we set the insulated glass into frames we welded on-site.
When complete the interior walls and ceilings will be finished in birch plywood, to match the trailer’s original feel and look. We will have a full 12v lighting system with a gas light back up. The 12v system will be replenished via a small array of PV’s. The downspout will be hooked up to a cistern to collect all rain from roof. This will supply us with a gray-water system.
I will continue to update this project as we pass major steps in the process.
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Top | Reply to this Title: Brrr! Author: Scott Date Posted: 21 Nov 2007 12:58 PM (GMT -06:00) Nothing colder than a metal box in a Minnesota winter -- how are you guys going to insulate? |
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Top | Reply to this Author: Paul Date Posted: 28 Nov 2007 10:44 AM (GMT -06:00) we are going to insulate from the inside by furring out and cladding accordingly with birch ply. |
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Top | Reply to this Title: Man Barn Author: richard silc Date Posted: 28 Nov 2007 03:01 PM (GMT -06:00) Damn good design. In case of nuke war I'll be glad to bunker down with you boys. Will build something similar for a metal art studio/workshop myself. |
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Top | Reply to this Title: Code? Author: D. Mills Date Posted: 29 Nov 2007 01:21 PM (GMT -06:00) Have you had to deal with any type of building code there? If so, what have you run across in using the ISO's? I've been researching and trying to design a permanent structure/home for my vacant land her in AZ for 2-years now and still can't seem to get it right, affordable or approvalable, KUDOS to you. |
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Top | Reply to this Author: Scott Stankey Date Posted: 05 Dec 2007 06:27 PM (GMT -06:00) Fortunately, building code has basically been a non-issue for us. Since this is technically a "hunting shack" (ie - no running water or permanent electricity) the only restriction for the local building codes was that it be no less than 35 feet from any property line. So, I guess that's the good part about bein' out in the sticks, less bureaucracy, cooler buildings! By the way, thanks for the positive comments. |
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Top | Reply to this Title: Cuts Author: D. Mills Date Posted: 29 Nov 2007 01:25 PM (GMT -06:00) Oh, I forgot to ask, how did you cut the opening in the metal and what tools did you use? The cut looks sooo, clean. |
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Top | Reply to this Author: Scott Stankey Date Posted: 05 Dec 2007 06:33 PM (GMT -06:00) Paul knows more about this than I do, since he did it. But I believe he used a Milwaukee brand metal cutting circular saw (about $250). Basically the same as any other circ saw, just made for metal. The cuts are great, were supposedly very easy to do and didn't need too much clean-up (ie grinding) to finish them. However, although I was at home in Minneapolis, I think the cutting was so loud that I'm pretty sure I could here it at home, 100 miles away! OK, joking, but I'm guessing it wasn't the quietest work we've done on the cabin to date. Paul, got anything to add? |
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Top | Reply to this Title: Cost Author: Tom Date Posted: 06 Dec 2007 08:51 AM (GMT -06:00) I know you said that the containers cost 800 each, just curious of how much you think it will end up costing total by the end of the project? This is of course besides man hours that you have put in. Also GREAT Project by the way!! First time I could find this process in detail. |
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Top | Reply to this Author: Paul Date Posted: 06 Dec 2007 10:03 AM (GMT -06:00) We were hoping the budget was going to be about $10k but it is looking a little larger than we hoped. We have not put all of our receipts together to see where we are. I think most of the larger expenses are taken care of so maybe around $15k? |
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Top | Reply to this Title: Brilliant! Nice airy design. Author: Mario (http://www.adventuretrailers.com) Date Posted: 17 Dec 2007 10:45 PM (GMT -06:00) We are also in the beginning stages of our remote cabin build from a 20' IBU and you have given us inspriation for future expansion of this project. We have opted for "One timer" container that has pushed our budget up a bit but the project should come in at around $15K. Will you be off grid and on septic or composting? In some of the photos I can see the railroad ties under the containers on the piers and in later photos not. Did the ties remain in place or did you weld the containers to the piers? |
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Top | Reply to this Author: Paul Date Posted: 19 Dec 2007 11:18 AM (GMT -06:00) Thanks for the kind thoughts. Right now we have a pit toilet (outhouse) but will do something else when funds allow. The ties were there for the moving. Once they were in place we slid 2x2 sq. tube under and welded to embeds in the concrete and then to the bottom of the containers. Hope this helps... |
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Top | Reply to this Author: Mario (http://www.adventuretrailers.com) Date Posted: 23 Dec 2007 01:12 PM (GMT -06:00) Thanks for the clarification. One of the bugaboos for us on this project is insulation and vapor barriers. Our thoughts have been to use a rigid foam boad with the vapor barrier incorporated into the board. What are your plans in regards to this? |
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Top | Reply to this Title: Great design and layout! Author: Trevor (http://ark-house.blogspot.com) Date Posted: 24 Jan 2008 09:22 PM (GMT -06:00) Just when I thought I had exhausted the web of container projects I find out about you guys! Fantastic work. I plan on beginning work on a cabin/off the grid retreat in the spring using just 1 20 foot container. I have heard that the wood flooring used in these containers is often heavily treated with pesticides to prevent infestation during transport internationally. Are you familiar with this? Was it an issue for you and if so what steps did you take to help avoid future exposure to these chemicals? Also, I gathered from a previous posting that you aren't using a foam or fiberglass insulation, I assume then that you don't plan on using the cabin in the winter months? I guess that's all for now :) I look forward to seeing updates on the progress in the future and have added your project to my list of inspirations when it comes time for my own project to take physical form. Take care! |
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Top | Reply to this Author: Paul Date Posted: 25 Jan 2008 08:25 AM (GMT -06:00) We have not figured out what we are doing with the floors yet. We may cover them or we may sand them? We will be insulating them, far too cold up here not to. We will fur out the walls and use rigid foam then cover with birch ply... That is the plan, at least for now... Thanks for the kind thoughts... |
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Top | Reply to this Title: roofing and loft Author: Chad Morris Date Posted: 30 Jan 2008 11:55 AM (GMT -06:00) First off It looks great. After seeing this and another prefab home "Sunset Breeze House" my wife and are going to venture to build in about two years, funds permitting. I am curious to what material you used to construct the loft area, and where or how did you make the roof trusses. Again I love the idea |
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Top | Reply to this Author: Paul Date Posted: 30 Jan 2008 01:54 PM (GMT -06:00) Chad, The loft is framed out of simple 2x4's on a welded steel angle w/ anchor bolts. The roof is constructed of (3) 4 1/2" X 11 1/4" fir beams made up of (3) 2X12's thru bolted and glued. Above that are fir 2x8 purlins @ 16" o.c. Above that are 2x4 sub-purlins w/ insulation between. Hope this helps... |
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Top | Reply to this Author: Chad Morris Date Posted: 31 Jan 2008 09:09 AM (GMT -06:00) Thanks Paul that helps a lot.I forgot to ask in the the last post. What are you using for siding. Is the inside material the same as the outside. |
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Top | Reply to this Author: Paul Date Posted: 31 Jan 2008 02:06 PM (GMT -06:00) the exterior siding is stained cedar. the interior cladding is maple plywood w/ mahogany strip accents. |
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Top | Reply to this Title: Chad Morris Roofing Author: Brad Vickery Date Posted: 08 Feb 2010 12:24 PM (GMT -06:00) I need contact info for Chad about some work in Yucca Valley. |
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Top | Reply to this Title: Is it finished? Author: Kasia Date Posted: 02 May 2008 01:27 PM (GMT -06:00) Fascinating project and interesting building/design process. I can't wait to see more pics of how it progressed since you last posted pics. Any chance we could all see how the abode looks inside and out at this point?
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Top | Reply to this Title: very cool Author: jennifer Date Posted: 28 May 2008 11:52 PM (GMT -06:00) really would like to thank you for posting your progress. now i know i am not alone and that my dream of a house can actually come true. i am a recently divorced 35 year old woman determined to have my own house. i have purchased 2 offshore living quarters containers 10 by 40 each . and am trying to configure a way to arrange them so i can have myself a nice home. thanks for your time any suggestions greatly appreciated jennifer - louisiana |
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Top | Reply to this Title: Insulation Author: Chris Date Posted: 03 Jun 2008 12:16 PM (GMT -06:00) Great looking build guys!!!! I have played around with a few container builds for relocatable office/relief housing for construction projects. After making a few mistakes along the way, strapping the walls and having sprayed on insulation takes care of R value and vapour barrier all in one. I understand with the remote location having an applicator come out to spray may be challenging. For others tuning in. Laying out the walls and spraying before transport was a time and $$ saver and the added weight was not an issue.Again congrats Chris- Ontario Canada |
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Top | Reply to this Title: insulation Author: jerry Date Posted: 21 Jul 2008 05:19 AM (GMT -06:00) really cool conversion guys! Q...what is the best way to insulate a container ? i obviously wish to try and eliminate condensation etc... |
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Top | Reply to this Title: Steel Shelters... Sounds like a Beatles song... Author: renaissanceronin (http://renaissanceronin.wordpress.com) Date Posted: 06 Sep 2008 05:16 PM (GMT -06:00) Hey guys, Great job! My family is currently building a Shipping Container House in Coastal Mississippi, as we speak. I only wish I had your lack of "zoning" problems! One of the biggest issues I talk about on my blog (we're documenting the build) is the politics involved with building a home out of a container. Thanks for sharing this with us! Have you thought about using a ceramic coating to combat heat gain, and temp loss? Looking forward to seeing the finish! Ronin
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Top | Reply to this Title: Nice, very nice..........My is in planing. Author: Michael Abraham Date Posted: 22 Jan 2009 11:31 AM (GMT -06:00) Hello from germany, we are plan to builed also with containers. So , if i have photos , I let you now.
Great House Michael Abraham |
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Top | Reply to this Author: Paul (http://www.hivemodular.com) Date Posted: 22 Jan 2009 02:38 PM (GMT -06:00) I would love to see what you do! Please share as progress is made.
Cheers, Paul |
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Top | Reply to this Author: Pat Date Posted: 11 Oct 2009 11:43 AM (GMT -06:00) Hi Paul and Scott, I really liked what you have done and I am insprired. I want to do a house using containers in the UP Michigan area. When I get started I will contact you.
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Top | Reply to this Title: Foundations Author: Mick (http://roundyduffy@hotmail.com) Date Posted: 14 Oct 2009 04:27 AM (GMT -06:00) Hey guys great project. I'm lookin to build sumthing similar in Ireland as a quiet getaway. I'm interested in the foundations. Are they just piles or did u pour a ring foundation and then pour pillars on top? Also did you set steel into the pillars when casting to weld the containers to or are they just resting atop? Cheers lads Great work |
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Top | Reply to this Author: Paul (http://www.hivemodular.com) Date Posted: 14 Oct 2009 08:18 AM (GMT -06:00) Thanks for the kind thoughts. We poured 24" dia. footings below the frost line at the bottom of each concrete pillar. We connected the footings to the pillars with steel rebar. We then ran the rebar. up the pillar and connected it to plate steel placed at the top of each pillar flush with the top of the concrete. We then welded 2"x2" sq. steel tube along the length spanning the tubes themselves. Once secure we then welded the containers to the top of the sq. tube. Hope this makes some sense. Cheers, Paul |
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Top | Reply to this Title: Pillars, pillars, and not a pilsner in sight... Author: RenaissanceRonin (http://www.renaissanceronin.wordpress.com) Date Posted: 14 Oct 2009 07:23 PM (GMT -06:00) Paul, For "shallow sets" I've always just poured 18" - 2' diameter (rebar reinforced) pilings, (below the frost line) with j-bolts embedded in the top of the piling to attach a 1'x1' steel plate to (flush with the piling top). Once the steel plate is attached, you just weld all the little connective bits. :) Then once we dropped the box onto the piling (using a Lull at each end), we just welded it in place, right onto those steel plates. You took a few more steps, so I'm thinking that I missed something when I've been building mine in this manner. I've never had one fail, but your method makes me think that you're seeing something that I'm not. Does your two piece footing/piling just save on concrete material usage? What does the square tubing do? Isn't the connection to the steel plate solid enough? Are you just increasing weld surface area? Thanks for sharing your expertise. Ronin |
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Top | Reply to this Author: Paul (http://www.hivemodular.com) Date Posted: 15 Oct 2009 09:06 AM (GMT -06:00) the two piece footing/column was a cost and material deal. we did not want to use bell type systems as they get a little pricey and use a fair bit of conc. going the way we did took longer but resulted in a similar ending. again it was really driven by $. the square tubing gave us just that, more weldable surface area. since our containers were a little old and a bit rusty we wanted to make certain there were no point loads that could possibly lead to issues down the road. i think if i were building with a new container i would not be so fussy... |
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Top | Reply to this Title: Floating Containers... Author: RenaissanceRonin (http://www.renaissanceronin.wordpress.com) Date Posted: 15 Oct 2009 10:43 AM (GMT -06:00) Hi Paul, I'd also forgotten that you also had to carry your own water, et all to the site via "manpower." I thought perhaps you had some "Obie Wan" trick that some old Jedi taught you... But I see that you were just using plain old common sense... Thanks for clarifying... Ronin
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Top | Reply to this Title: Thanks for such a nice article. Author: gioco del casinò in rete (http://www.vegas-casino.it/) Date Posted: 13 Nov 2009 06:39 AM (GMT -06:00) Thanks for such a beautifully composed, informative article.I think your designing work to this is really great .I really appreciate your work to this site.So thanks for it.I hope you can continue this type of hard work to this site in future also..Because this blog is really very informative and it helps me lot. |
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Top | Reply to this Title: IMAGES 300dpi for publication Author: Clara Masotti Date Posted: 21 Nov 2009 10:25 AM (GMT -06:00) I'm Clara Masotti and I'm researcher at the Department of Architecture at the Faculty of Engineering (University of Bologna, Italy). I'm interested to your holyoke cabin to insert in my publication on temporary architecture. I'd be very glad if you can send me some picture in 300dpi definition. Thank you very much and best wishes for your job!!! Kind regards Clara |
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Top | Reply to this Title: Images... Author: Paul (http://www.hivemodular.com) Date Posted: 23 Nov 2009 08:40 AM (GMT -06:00) Clara,
Please send me your email address and I will gladly forward any images you like.
Thanks, Paul |
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Top | Reply to this Title: cant wait to see layout Author: Tanya Date Posted: 03 Feb 2010 01:57 PM (GMT -06:00) Fantabulous, thanx for posting details of progress but now I am really keen to see your layout, eg where you will put the beds, kitchen etc You have given us all great inspiration, muito obrigada |
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